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      Google's Shareholders Vote to Continue Censorship in China

      Posted by Jeff

      Google [has been] coming under fire for operating a version of its search engine that complies with China's censorship rules. Google argues that it's better for it to have a presence in the country and to offer people some information, rather than for it not to be active in China at all... [S]hareholders and rights groups including Amnesty International... continue to push Google to improve its policies in countries known for human rights abuses and limits on freedom of speech... Sergey Brin, cofounder and president of technology for Google, abstained from voting on either of the proposals. 'I agreed with the spirit of these proposals,' Brin said. But he said he didn't fully support them as they were written, and so did not want to vote for them.


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      Posted by Jeff from Dailykos

      Back in 1995, a Chinese consortium, which included two Chinese state-owned companies, made a bid to take over Magnequench. Because the company makes key parts for smart bombs, the takeover had to be approved by the Clinton administration's Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States. Despite the national security and economic problems with selling off such critical manufacturing capacity to the Chinese - and despite the knowledge that such a deal would likely end in a domestic mass layoff - the Clinton administration approved the deal.

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    Jeff comments on:

    China welcomes Red Cross response to deadly earthquake but has yet to call for foreign assistance

    The one child rule makes the loss of children unbelievably tragic in context.

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    3:23 pm 5/15/08
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    Damianmann comments on:

    Google's Shareholders Vote to Continue Censorship in China

    yeah…I agree the we may seem a bit much. But, then, I don’t see too many people up in arms over it either…therefore, "we" isn’t too far off.

    “So much attention is paid to the aggressive sins, such as violence and cruelty and greed with all their tragic effects, that too little attention is paid to the passive sins, such as apathy and laziness, which in the long run can have a more devastating effect.

    eleanor roosevelt

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    7:29 pm 5/10/08
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    theangryindian comments on:

    Google's Shareholders Vote to Continue Censorship in China

    I’d be careful about using "we", it implies a collective thumbs up, which I doubt Google’s execs would respect unless you own stock with them.  While China’s government is questionable, so is this one.  Especially since "we" owe them billions.  They are paying for Pax Americana in Iraq and te Afghanistanian theatre after all.

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    7:26 pm 5/09/08
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    Damianmann comments on:

    Google's Shareholders Vote to Continue Censorship in China

    They’re , eventually, going to steal the technology and make their own google. We screw ourselves and their people by doing business with their government.

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    5:11 pm 5/09/08
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    socean comments on:

    Google's Shareholders Vote to Continue Censorship in China

    If Google were to tie commercial opportunity to openess, China would go after the money on its own. That is, if they are paid to be more relaxed, they will be. If they can keep things closed and not loose too much money, they will keep things closed.

    Its actually the advertisers and marketers that use Google that have the most power to influence policies.  Follow the money. Its the only thing that votes in China.

     

     

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    2:46 pm 5/09/08
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    Cityzen comments on:

    Google's Shareholders Vote to Continue Censorship in China

    China makes the rules in China.  Censorship and threat of prison (or worse) is bread into their society for thousands of years.  China is patient, Americans and companies think short term.  Better americans focus on their own issues and make sure we don’t end up like this. ooops, i guess that’s why newscloud was started.

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    11:34 am 5/09/08
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    theangryindian comments on:

    Google's Shareholders Vote to Continue Censorship in China

    Google is a capitalist concern, so if China will only allow them to operate there under their rules despite the factoid that those laws are in violation of U.S. rhetoric, when in Rome…

    I mean, wasn’t Google one of the communications portals that turned over the Internet records of private citizens like the rest of the telecoms?  Gates and Co. went so far as to create Vista, which according to the German news media, (where I first learned of this) and other tech watchdogs.

    Orwell must be saying, "I told you so".

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    11:21 am 5/09/08
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    Jeff

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    Jeff is the founder of NewsCloud. He is also a freelance writer and blogs at Idealog.

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    Dropped out of the rat race, but possibly still a rat… Now viewing the world from Down Under.

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    ronnie12

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    32 yrs, male, republican-flavoured liberal thinker. I'm interested in philosophy, spiritualism and geopolitical isssues - most of all, those concerning China. I believe every single person is a unique gem. My only public committment, as a consequence, is to fight any power crushing this value.

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