Endangered species

"No species will be harmed by global climate change.  Are you kidding me?" Nope, not kidding. There is no catasptrophic change happening (or that is going to happen.) It’s a natural cyclic system and as I said above, GCC is has happened many times thorughout the history of this planet and every species on this planet has lived through it, multiple times.

"Looks like another degradation of the planet to this observer.  Thank God Bush’s reign is nearly over before he bankrupts our grandkids as well as our kids."

I see you’re not an Obama supporter. That’s cool. He makes Bush look like quite the miserly, reasonable fellow. Actually, I’d vote for Bush again over either available candiate.

I understand what the Species act does. I do want real scientists makeing sure that it’s used for real good reasons. Property rights need to be respected, as well. So if the scientists find the extremely rare Whateveritisium Tinyificus living on your 40 acre bacx lot then it can pay you fair market value for the 40 acres and set it aside forever.

Or atl east until the next ice age paves it over with 40 yards of gravel.

No species will be harmed by global climate change.  Are you kidding me?

One of the most important ways the Endangered Species Act successfully protects endangered and threatened plants and animals is by requiring federal agencies to consult with the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) or National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) before approving a project that may harm those species. Very few projects are actually stopped by the Endangered Species Act; however the changes made to these projects are vital to ensuring that endangered species receive adequate protection.

The proposed changes in the rules unacceptably narrow the circumstances under which federal agencies are required to consult with the FWS or NMFS before approving projects such as permitting new oil and gas drilling or constructing federal highways.

If you want some hard science behind the Endangered Species Act, why wouldn’t you want the FWS and the NMFS checking to make sure the industrial "big guns" don’t just do whatever they want with our resources?

Looks like another degradation of the planet to this observer.  Thank God Bush’s reign is nearly over before he bankrupts our grandkids as well as our kids.

Yes, let’s trim the fat off budget. Or, at least, lets have no new spending and no rate increases beyond inflation. I can already hear people howling.

No species will be harmed by climate change. every species on Earth has gone through far more drastic climate changes (warmer times and ice ages) than anything we’ll experience in our lifetimes or that of our great grandkids. The idea of catastrophic CC as put forth by the Goracle is total nonsense. By the way, the Polar Bears like less ice, their populations are increasing quite nicely, much to the chagrin of the people who have to live near them.

Politicians like to buy votes, Dems especially, Obama in particular, but R’s too (which is one of the reasons they lost big in ‘06,) so there will be no spending decreases. I have little hope that McCain will do anything to do more than slow the rate of spending increases.

While the Endangereed Species Act maybe doesn’t need to be gutted, it does need to have some hard science behind it and it needs to have some respect for property right and people’s rights.

I dunno that Bush will hand out all that many pardons, he seems willing to let people take their "punishments." I expect there will be some, though.

This is a small counter balance to the way Clinton locked up coal resources at the end of his term.  And something tells me that Bush will have plenty, but fewer pardons to hand out than Clinton.

It’s about time we start trimming the fat off of the budget – 1300 consulations per year!!!  Let’s make room for 5 and go from there.

Umm . . . species that might be harmed by climate change?  How about humans?  There’s an important one.  How ‘bout we focus on ourselves and then start worrying about the polar bears.

The Endangered Species Act laws have needed review for quite some time. They’ve done a few good things and have been used as an unjustified club in many ways. Of course, this applies to pretty much ANY set of US Gov laws. I don’t consider them to be good laws just because there’s a nice idea behind them.

As far as review, let’s get a real debate going on this thing, with sceintists from both sides getting equal air time, not just envoros.

I’d be happy to send Bush on vacation if we couild get a decent candidate to replace him. Impeach him? For what? It makes for good Dem press, but let’s get real here. The last clown needed impeachment, though it didn’t amount to anything.

Unfortunately, as a replacement McCain looks to be merely adequate and Comrade Obama, with his plans to abandon Iraq to the fires of chaos and destroy our economy looks to be far far worse. As it stands I’d vote for Bush again over either of those two.

Too bad Someone like Allen B. West, runing for Florida’s 22nd, isn’t runing for Pres. He sounded pretty good in the interview I heard the other day.

hmm…. its high time. I only hope more environmentalists and scientists are involved in designing this change than politicians….