Habeas corpus

Western Ideas is why they hate us. I dislike it greatly that we want  liberal ideals to be how American is seen by the rest of the world. 

You won’t give "all respect" to the Office of the President.  Are you talking about the current administration or in general. I hate it when a Dem is in office because the move all military dollars into social programs. But I still respect the "Office of the President" because he could veto.

Luckly you live in the US and didn’t live under Sadam’s reign in Iraq.

In 1979 Jimmy Carter hid behind the constitution and let Americans be tortured and brutalized by Iranian radicals. Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States in 1998.  The Clinton administration was busy with "harder" priorities.  Like it, hate it, the current administration has shown the world we will respond. Not appease.  We will see if the next administration has the guts to do the same.  I think you and I share a dislike for anyone being disingenuous and  "politicizing" of the issue.  We should kick-ass and not apologize. 

Even if someone does not have legal standing as an American citizen they should be treated humanely and provided an opportunity to defend themselves from accusations. But to deny them the right to know why they are accused and not given an evenhanded opportunity in a reasonable amount of time to defend themselves is immoral. A fair hearing should be standard practice, not a “luxury” just for Americans. Does it matter if other countries do not provide this? Yes! And should the United States set an example, the highest ideal, if it wants to promote democracy and justice for all worldwide? Yes! Saying other countries would not treat Americans in a fair and just manner as a reason we should not in this country is a poor rationale and a non-argument.   

It is not hatred. It is disgust for this administration’s disrespect of the Constitution and rule of law. It is disgust for the way they politicize science. It is disgust for their manipulation of the media such as imbedding journalists, directing retired military to act as “independent” spokespersons and creating stealth PR videos to promote their agenda. It is disgust for their ineptitude such as managing Katrina. It is disgust for outing justice department prosecutors who do not follow their political doctrine. It is disgust for selling a war on manufactured intelligence. It is disgust for their redefinitions of torture in violation of human rights accords. And the list goes on. I am just as disgusted whether it is Republicans, Democrats or office holders of any political persuasion consciously performing in such a pathetic and immoral manner.

As for giving “all respect” to the Office of the President, I will never give it blindly to anyone in that role, especially when the office holder does not respect the Constitution which he is obligated to uphold and defend. I will never give it when the office holder perverts and usurps his authority. Respect and trust must be earned and it has not been. This goes for the other White House officials as well.

You are correct sir. People who are not Americans do not enjoy the luxury of the American legal system and its privileges.  It does not make them less human; nor does it exploit the rights that are given to people who earned them by being by becoming a citizen or being born here.  I do not enjoy legal standing in any other nation, especially if I was accused of plotting a crime against that nation. I wonder how the Sudan would treat me if I was accused of being a Christian there let alone trying to over-throw their government.  You are warped out of proportion by your hatred for this administration. This liberal court chooses to give the detainees more rights that illegal aliens, and Nazi’s.  By the way, the office of the President of the United States deserves all respect.  I gave it to Bill Clinton when he was President. Even when I disagreed with him, I corresponded to his office politely and with deference to the position he earned (with out a majority of the vote).  It is only common courtesy to treat the office with the respect it deserves. 

First off, you are assuming that everyone that gets caught is planning, conspiring to commit acts that target American citizens. Given the number of people never charged in this situation, a good number now freed, the right to know why with supporting evidence is appropriate. Having the right to defend oneself with trained legal representation is appropriate in an impartial court. Otherwise it is just specific individuals saying someone did something wrong and never given the fair opportunity to address it. We spend billions on military muscle destroying countries for false justifications; only reasonable we put money into the democratic processes that we are supposedly trying to bring to these nations and their people.

Second, you dismiss a person as not worthy of a fair trial if they are not American. You’re saying other nationalities are not as good as Americans. We can catch them and put them into an American criminal system (in this case a contrived military one) and not give them any information as to why and the rights to defend themselves.

Third, this administration and THEIR military (as they have culled most all dissenting voices) have declared a war on terrorism. Who is terrorism? This is a tactic, not an enemy. Then through this rubric the current administration casts a wide blanket to capture, "intensely" interrogate and summarily declare criminal anyone they wish. This whole construct of a war on terrorism with no end is just swallowed whole by those who don’t think it though. So now it’s OK to capture anyone deemed bad and hold them indefinitely.

And finally you do realize that the president (little p suites current office holder’s stature) can name anyone, including you, any American he chooses, an enemy combatant and off you go. That’s why this is a nation guided by the rule of law, not the decision of one man or a handful of individuals. Mistakes will be and as has been so evidently seen, been made to innocent individuals.

I agree with those in descent. This is terrible!!

I say, Just because you’re on American soil or detained by the American legal system/government the U.S. Constitution doesn’t have to apply to you if you’re not a LEGAL American citizen and have commited crimes, planned attackes that targeted  American  citizens.

We send a terrible message -

" if we plan, conspire to commit acts that target American citizens and get caught/detained ANYWHERE in the world by US government officials, you can use their court system against them and their tax payers will pay for it.  Because the liberals say detaining us gives us this "right" to challenge being detained in federal court. You may even have a lawyer assigned to your case".

The timing is great for the liberal mindset, this can be seen as a "rebuke" of the Bush administration in contrast to the liberals expanding the U.S. constitution beyond it’s intent.

Yeah well just goes to show you the Supreme Court doesn’t give a damn about protecting the people of this country.  Their idiots.