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      U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton said reporter Toni Locy defied his order last August that she cooperate with Steven J. Hatfill in his lawsuit against the government. Walton indicated he would impose a fine until she divulged her sources, but that he would take a few more days to decide whether to postpone the penalty as she pursues an appeal.

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      The Bush administration allowed CIA interrogators to use tactics that were "quite distressing, uncomfortable, even frightening," as long as they did not cause enough severe and lasting pain to constitute illegal torture, a senior Justice Department official said last week.

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      he 26-year-old does not renounce his father, al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, but in an interview with The Associated Press, he said there is a better way to defend Islam than al-Qaida's militancy: Omar wants to be an "ambassador for peace" between Muslims and the West.

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    agitkid comments on:

    Report Says Fire, Not Explosion, Felled 7 W.T.C.

    I would be more than happy to do that.

    The primary problem with this is that NIST will not share it’s data with the public, which as you know, is crucial to giving any validity to their claims. They base most of their conclusions on black box computer models in which they tweak variables to meet their conclusions. Chemist Kevin Ryan and Dr. Jones has written extensively about this here:

    www.journalof911studies.com , and note this:

    journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf

    Further, their recent wtc7 report does the same thing, and in fact ignores crucial evidence which i’ve already mentioned; namely, the presense of motlen metal plus NASA satellite images showing temperatures on the order of 1400 F weeks after the 11th (office fires NIST acknowleges didn’t reach above 500-600 degrees whereas the melting point of steel is around 2700 degrees F), temperatures far higher than office fires can reach, as well as the presence of forensic data showing the residue of thermite. Don’t forget also that they don’t explain the near free fall speed at which building 7 fell, indicating universal and symmetrical failure of all columns simultaneously.

    The idea that random office fires can coordinate itself to cause immediate, universal and symmetrical collapse of a tall building straight down into its own foot print in near free fall speed is beyond ridiculous. At that point, any reasonable scientist will demand data or simply ridicule such a conclusion. NIST won’t let us see their computer models, so all we have left is ridicule and much better hypotheses (controlled demolition).

    Here’s the start of that Italian documentary "Zero" i mentioned earlier (clip 1 of 12, follow links to other clips):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YqET96OO0

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    5:56 pm 8/25/08
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    koroth comments on:

    Report Says Fire, Not Explosion, Felled 7 W.T.C.

    I’m not a chemist or a forensic anything. I have a moldy biology degree and that’s about it. I actually started out being interested in the 911truth arguments and quite willing to hear them. Obviously I’ve since changed my mind.

    I suppose the only reasonable thing to do here is to have agitkid, Dr. Stevens, et al., on one side of the gym debate floor and the army of engineers and scientsists who say (Ummm… no.) on the other side of the debate floor.

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    9:41 am 8/25/08
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    agitkid comments on:

    Report Says Fire, Not Explosion, Felled 7 W.T.C.

    I’m a chemist. I’ve used various forms of spectroscopy. the results of Dr. Steven Jones’ work using XEDS (x-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy) showing the key forensic signature of thermite is daming evidence for the presence of a modified high explosive for this incendiary, including the presence of molten metal in the form of iron rich microspheres. Nothing explained by NIST can be considered anything but a coverup. Also, don’t take koroth’s word for it, go and actually listen to the press conference i posted above and engage them with your questions.

    For a detailed explanation of these issues, i encourage  readers to visit the online peer reviewed scientific journal on this and many other issues here:

    http://www.journalof911studies.com

    For other readers interested in getting at the facts of what was left out of this most recent, and anti-scientific, nonsense that NIST calls a report, you can write directly to mechanical and structural enginners at this site (now over 400 hundred credentialed experts who’ve put their name and credentials on the line to call for a new investigation):

    http://www.ae911truth.org

    I tend to stick with the science, but there is a lot more that is just disinformation in the official story that is well covered by the Italian documentary Zero ( on youtube), and the German documentary here:

    http://nuoviso.com/movieDetail_911falseflag.htm

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    12:42 am 8/25/08
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    koroth comments on:

    Report Says Fire, Not Explosion, Felled 7 W.T.C.

    Actually, I’ve done a lot of research into it. The towers and associated buildings dropped due to airplane impacts and associated fire and impact/collapse effects. That’s been pretty conclusively proven by a whole lot of engineers, metallurgists, and other pretty smart people. That steel beams will fail under moderately high temps has been adequately demonstrated.

    The, um, alternative conclusions have been shown to be wrong.

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    10:33 pm 8/24/08
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    agitkid comments on:

    Report Says Fire, Not Explosion, Felled 7 W.T.C.

    The official investigation is a fraud. Spend some time and do the research. Architects and engineers from www.ae911truth.org held a press conference on Aug 21 to respond to this report. You can listen to the press conference here:

    http://www.ae911truth.org/audio/AE911truth%20News%20Conf%20080821_web.mp3
     

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    8:46 pm 8/24/08
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    koroth comments on:

    Report Says Fire, Not Explosion, Felled 7 W.T.C.

    This won’t silence the usual crowd, but it’s good that these guys did this report.

    I think that a lot of building developers and engineers have learned a lot since 9/11. Hopefully they put it to good use with their next developments.

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    10:32 am 8/24/08
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    khf333 comments on:

    Anthrax suspect Ivins commits suicide

    This story is very suspicious … the neocons seem bent on sweeping this one under the rug before the administration changes. The alleged ‘suicide’ is most convenient and the lack of any real facts around this case smells pretty bad …

    The ‘Justice" Department is run by who?  And who appointed him? And who were the targets of the anthrax attacks  ...  Democrats and Tom Brokaw, in case you’ve all forgotten.

     

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    9:38 pm 8/03/08
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    former US Marine, retired police; now alternately protected and terrorized by gangs of cats

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    “The Angryindian” is an internationally recognised Indigenist activist and outspoken critic of U.S. colonialism practised against Aboriginal societies in America and abroad. He is editor of IntelligentaIndigena Novajoservo and the host of Radyo Inteligentaindigena, an independent, non-partisan international Indigenist podcast.

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